"It must be easier to make such choices whilst blindfolded. During the hearing, Climate Change, our gorgeous dreadlocked elephant, sat politely in the front row of the Westport Bridge Club while submitters spoke on his behalf. Sharon would not have recognised him anyway, but the other two commissioners, even had they noticed his pink floppy ears and sad round eyes, were not allowed to acknowledge him, not even to cast a cursory glance his way.
That’s because he has been banished by the Environment Court. Climate Change, the most important environmental issue facing the world today, banished by our own Environment Court and called irrelevant by the coal miners’ legal representative, Chapman Tripp.
The lawyers told local governments not to worry their heads over Climate Change. Leave it to them, they say, to that legal piece of national weasel wizardry, loved by all big fossil fuel emitters: the Emissions Trading Scheme. The ETS works wonders for Solid Energy – we, the taxpayers, subsidise 90% of their NZ emissions and anything exported doesn’t count. They get to pollute our atmosphere for next to nothing!
There it is; a sad story of three blind mice, one elephant, and a mountain."
That’s because he has been banished by the Environment Court. Climate Change, the most important environmental issue facing the world today, banished by our own Environment Court and called irrelevant by the coal miners’ legal representative, Chapman Tripp.
The lawyers told local governments not to worry their heads over Climate Change. Leave it to them, they say, to that legal piece of national weasel wizardry, loved by all big fossil fuel emitters: the Emissions Trading Scheme. The ETS works wonders for Solid Energy – we, the taxpayers, subsidise 90% of their NZ emissions and anything exported doesn’t count. They get to pollute our atmosphere for next to nothing!
There it is; a sad story of three blind mice, one elephant, and a mountain."
20 comments:
i too see an elephant in the room,,
its holding a sign waving it about and trumpeting a scientific fact ,
co2 is a trace gas , essential for plant respiration and growth, it is essential for production of plant based carbohydrates.below 150 pp plants die. co2 levels have been many times higher for extended periods back through time ,
co2 is not a pollutant and on average over the last 600 million years has been at about 1000pp , interesting that is the level that
is optimum for plant growth.
and of course as we all know co2 does not drive temperature it follows it ,
if anyone of a green persuasion is concerned about atmospheric co2 levels i suggest they consider holding their breath for an extended period ,, this would lower co2
Letter to Editor Southland Times
29/08/2012 -Unproductive missives
Robert Guyton draws our attention to inequality (August 25).
In all his writings to the paper, he has yet to advance a single, pro-ductive, job creating idea. He is against all economic development. He opposes agricultural intensification, oil and gas utilisation, coal mining and tourist development:
The communists believed equality would create wealth and a better society and ended up with poverty.
Robert Guyton and his greenie mates believe a better society will be created if we are all reduced to the same level of wealth.
This utopian society of equality, self-sufficiency. recycling, no pollution and zero carbon foot-print, has already been done in North Korea.
The North Koreans live in desperate poverty. New Zealand doesn't need to repeat the experiment.
When Robert Guyton advances one idea that's not some pie in the sky pipe dream, or that's not just free-loading on Peter in order that Paul can pay his grocery bill, perhaps we can give him some attention.
Meantime, he is just wasting space and the world's resources.
MERVYN CAVE
Manapouri
Ouch...
We don't need to worry anymore, the price of coal has dropped through the floor and at 1:00pm today Solid energy will likely close some of their mines.
Oh, and Sally, don't worry sweet heart, when the global economic crash happens due to greed, unsustainable economics and rampant consumerism, we will have a whole new "non greeny" reason to be like North Korea.
Hell, North Korea may look like paradise to the predicament coming our way, at least they are used to hardship, we most certainly are not.
Dear sally or Mervyn Cave
First, I hope the first reading in parliament today, of Louisa Wall's private members bill goes some way to helping with the gender identity crisis that you appear to be going through.
Second, and to address your comments. Hooray for capitalism. Let's create a market. Oops, already done that. Let's sit back and celebrate the achievements of capitalism in NZ. 20% of children in poverty and rising, and paragons like Eric Watson and Peter Steigrad to objectify as our heroes. We've never had it so good.
Is Robert Guyton a communist? From what I know of him he's nothing of the sort. Which makes your letter to the editor fit only for the bin. Unless you are proud to have you ill-informed views published.
BS - bs. Your implied violence toward anyone concerned about climate change is ...interesting (and noted).
Sally - great letter from Mervyn - wait til you read my reply. You'll really enjoy it!
Anonymous - you okay?
Shunda - be nice to Sally, she's fragile.
AC - Sally must have painstakingly re-typed Mervyn's letter after gleefully seizing upon it when it appeared in today's Southland Times. Such happiness it must have brought her and certainly it brightened up my day. Good ol' Merv. I met him at farmer's meeting I was invited to speak at years ago, when i was Green candidate. What fun that night was. They promised I'd get 45 minutes of un-interupted talking time, during which I could present anything I liked from my green perspective. They lasted 2 minutes before joining the fray. I bestir people like Mervyn and Sally from their customary torpor and love it when they show signs of life. Sadly Sally never really has anything to add to the discussion, but that's okay, she does what she can. Mervyn's comments are daft, it's true, but have provided me with a platform (again) to do some out-from-under-feet rug-pulling, which I value. I can't publish my response here yet - I have to let the Times have that function, but will when it appears on newsprint. Suffice to say, I found enough holes in Mervyn's argument to make him look riddled.
the term chardonay socialists comes to mind ,,
lets create a more apt term for this forum.
green dreamers ,
all knowing as to how the rest of the world should live .
mr Cave , you have a perfect right to express your opinon. its a shame the silent majourity dont follow your example
Robert 1.00pm
No I am not. Sympathy pains are bad.
Anonymouse - most of your comment seems to have no substance, however we do have some common ground here - I too share your belief that Mr Cave has a perfect right to express his opinion. I'm delighted that he did, in fact. Go Mervyn!
Anonymous - sympathy pains?
Are you a bleeding-heart Liberal then? A tree-hugging, swim with the dolphins, save the whales sort of guy?
Harden up!
Robert @1.35pm
Charming. What can I say? Try and offer kind words and they are thrown back in my face. Last time I try and be nice.
Anonymous - I've inadvertently hurt you, again! I'm terribly sorry, I didn't mean to cause you further pain.
Perhaps it's best that you don't 'try' and be nice.
Just be it :-)
Again?
I will "it" my way through this post.
You're an inspiration.
"Sally must have painstakingly re-typed Mervyn's letter"
Well actually RG I didn't re-type Mervyn's truthful letter. (Technology is a wonderful time saver).
It really does bug you that the likes of Mervyn and myself are not in a state of mental or physical inactivity or insensibility. In your eyes we are total pests putting obstacles in the way of Agenda 21.
It is a concern that it doesn’t seem to bother you that climate scientists are paid to ‘find’ a crisis
If you are a true grassroot green, you should be enraged at how the greens have been used by Bankers making enormous profits from the carbon credits swindle.
Nah, doesn't bug me at all, Sally. I welcome your comments and those of Merv. I don't mind being pested by you.
"It is a concern that it doesn’t seem to bother you that climate scientists are paid to ‘find’ a crisis."
Conspiracy-theory nonsense.
"If you are a true grassroot green, you should be enraged at how the greens have been used by Bankers making enormous profits from the carbon credits swindle."
How is it, Sally, that you can define what a 'grassroots green' is and should do? I don't think you have any idea what one is.
As to those who are making enormous profits from the likes of carbon credit trading etc, I hold them in very low regard. The ETS can be regarded a swindle, but that does not mean that climate change is not a reality. It just means that the swindlers are using whatever situation that exists, for their own greedy profit. It seems to me that you cannot separate the two aspects.
Of course climate change is a reality. Nothing new in that Robert
Interesting read at this link
http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2012/08/19/green-panic-and-false-prophecy/
Read the title, Sally, lost interest.
Well Robert in future please don't denigrate folk, who seek the truth, by accusing them of not looking at the either side of an argument. You have no idea of what research they may or may not have done.
A closed mind such as yours is not good particularly when you are Councillor
I've little interest in reading propaganda such as you've recomended, Sally. The title alone is enough to alert the discerning reader that pap is on offer. If this is an example of the 'research' you claim to have done, then I'm not surpriswed by your position on the issue.
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