Todd brings it down with a crunch!
It does fascinate me, though I know it shouldn't, watching National Party 'enthusiasts' like Ele Luudman, rehash, re-polish and regurgitate the Party lines and 'make them available to the ordinary reader'. To my eye, it's outright shilling, but saying that out loud draws fire from the true believers at Ele's place and they don't like it. So I'm pulling a little of Ele's spinning here, throwing it on the table the way you might a fleece, and leaving it un-teased. I have though, nicked Todd's reply to the post and reproduced it here, as it such a good reply and worth repeating.
(I've fallen at the last jump - couldn't do it, paste here what she's written there - pablum from Key, attacking Labour and the Greens for saying no. I've no problem with Todd's reply though, but it'll have to stand on its own :-)
Todd ross says:
July 23, 2012 at 8:09 am
There was no yes & no, the reality is many simply voted on personality.
The national party played the public, the party of business & greed promised more of the same. The national representatives of the electorates, hiding from the public eye, while the charismatic money man sold the fear & division from a tour bus.
We still got downgraded, the possibility of another market collapse still quite real, the income gap with Aussie worse, migration stats worse, inequality catching up with US…….
But don’t worry, mining revenue will boom ( effecting a select few & falsely inflating our national GDP figures) housing will boom (mostly with skilled migrant workers) oh & well all get rich through the nzx ( those with money that is)
So the economy is set under national, just don’t bother trying to factor in the word sustainable. The real trick will be getting th figures to stack up for the next election. being the party of business, I have all confidence that the numbers will be stacked in the right way, makeing the truth far to inconvenient. The truth won’t mean much if we’re up for another presidential style campaign.
Stop with the smiling man on the hoarding, take a look at the conduct in parliament.
Monday, July 23, 2012
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"we still got downgraded, the possibility of another market collapse still quite real, the income gap with Aussie worse, migration stats worse, inequality catching up with US……."
These sort of commetns always amaze me. They are heralded as fails by National yet lets look at them for real -
"we still got downgraded" - so did the rest of the world....
"the possibility of another market collapse still quite real" - we all realise this, yet a red led (and possible green) government would have us burrowing far more money thus making the future taxpayers have to reply serious debt as we had to in the 90's.
"the income gap with Aussie worse" - this is the biggest joke ever, we will never equal Ozzie and why should we. They are rich because they mine, in massive amounts. If you dont want us to mine Green Party, then stop quoting this line, Simple really, and anyway, why do we have to be as rich as the ozzies, are you not happy with what you have.
"migration stats worse" - worse than what?
"inequality catching up with US……." - What the heck does this mean, and how is inequality actually catching up with the US.
I thought the US was the Greens big evil, so why are they so keen to be like them?
Goodness, Towack! The depth of your understanding, it's a wafer :-)
Fails by National - sure they are!
Key declared boldly that we would catch up with Australia. You didn't hear him heralding that up and down the country? He failed to deliver. That it couldn't be doe is doubtless true, but the point is, Key gathered votes from the gulible by repeating it ad nauseum. Dishonest much? Or just plain deluded?
We got downgraded? Yes, and with a self-declared fiscally-nimble Government at the helm, we'd been lead to believe this sort of thing wouldn't happen to us. lead to believe by the National Government that we were in safe hands, financially. Not a bit of it, it turns out. they were weak, unable to do anything but float along like the rest. No special powers there, Mr Key, despite your pretense. Financial wizard? the deal maker?
Pish!
Migration stats worse - worse than they were, worse than National and key promised they would be. Goodness, Towack, don't tell me you didn't see the National party's promise that your young ones wouldn't be flying off, that they'd stay here in NZ because Key was a magic money man and would ensure there were jobs and a brighter future here? You must have been asleep!
You haven't seen any of the compaisons in ternms of the gap betweeen rich and poor and your unaware of the studies that show that those inequalities lead to social unrest and disintegration?
What do you read, Towack? Investigate magazine only? You should look beyond your personal shore and see how others are faring - it's not too flash out there, yet Key promised and continues to promise a Brighter Future. Excuse me for not buying into that pablum. AS for your claims of what the red and or green partiy's 'would have done', pish, you are only relaying your own prejudices there. Let's look at what National, the Government has done.
There is nothing in those comments that Labour have not promoted or said they will do, I cant say the Greens because they have never been voted into a goverment position yet.
You never actually refuted anything, RG, just blew a lot of hot air.
Actually it is reasonably flash (to use your words) out there, I sell quite expensive products for a living and have sold quite a few lately, mostly to mum and dad run business actually and when things are tight, they are first to stop buying.
My competition is also doing well and I see from the finance figures resently that NZ as a whole is spending well on capital items so I dont know what you are reading, perhaps just your own blogs and that is why your so negative and ill informed.
"You never actually refuted anything, RG, just blew a lot of hot air."
You said, Towack; ""the income gap with Aussie worse"
This statement is true, isn't it? The income gap is worse than it was when Key declared he would close it.
The migration stats are worse. They are worse than they were when Key declared that voting his Government in would reverse those stats.
I don't see that you have an argument here. You seem to be saying that there's nothing Key could have done about it. To that I say, why did he promise that he would?
Isn't that dishonest? Shouldn't we look at those claims when we are looking at others that he has made, such as, Mom is a great idea?
Refute means to prove that something is wrong, Towack. Do you want me to prove that migration stats are worse, that the income gap with Aussie is worse?
Are you hoping we'll believe they are better, the same even?
Really?
You seem to be saying that there's nothing Key could have done about it. To that I say, why did he promise that he would?
A lot of people seem to be saying there's nothing Key could have done about it. For quite a range of "its". I'd like to know why he didn't do nothing elsewhere, rather than in parliament, and left the job of PM to someone who could have done something. I suppose to find the answer, we would need to know why he went into politics - was it because he wanted to make the country a better place, or to make a difference? No, it was because he wanted to be PM since he was a kid. Most of us are happy with a merit certificate.
Yours is in the mail, AC.
" I'd like to know why he didn't do nothing elsewhere, rather than in parliament..."
Very nice.
What? I earned that certificate decades ago. Why is it still in the mail? Time to revise my views on privatising NZ Post.
And time to question how I knew it was there.
The world: mysterious and spherical.
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