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Monday, September 10, 2012

Parker reckons councils buggered



"A shake-up of Canterbury's local government is inevitable, Christchurch's mayor says.

Bob Parker said the Government's decision to retain the commissioners running Environment Canterbury (ECan) gave a "clear signal".

"I think it is coming and I think we have been sent a clear signal."

Parker said it was a "long-awaited debate" but he had no thoughts on the final form this would take.

However, Local Government Minister David Carter said a Christchurch City Council-ECan amalgamation was "definitely not" going to happen."

Those in the know, don't seem to know and don't know they don't know.
Or do they (know)?

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Your title doesn't seem to correspond to the article. Or does it?
Mr E

robertguyton said...

I believe it does. This quote:

"The community was now having less say in the rebuild in a region where people were already feeling "powerless enough" in the face of insurance companies and the Earthquake Commission.

"Shutting our people out of decisionmaking is not the way to rebuild Canterbury."
describes the effect on the community. Parker alludes to the spreading of the dictatorial Ecan 'model' to all other councils, hence they are to be buggered.

robertguyton said...

Did you, Mr E, catch up with my question on the thread about roadside planting, re; the writer's request?

Louis said...

Do the new marriage laws mean its is nevertheless legal?

robertguyton said...

Roadside planting you mean, Louis?
Yes, I believe it's legal.
In New Zealand any way.

Louis said...

Yes, roadside planting. I believe roadside plantings are illegal currently. You cannot plant trees on Council or Roads board land. If you do and a vehicle was to hit such tree, you would be liable for prosecution. It is illegal for farmers to electrify roadside boundary fences. It is illegal to erect permanent fencing on roadsides for grazing purposes (anything other than push in "standards" with temporary tape). It is illegal to leave such temporary fencing up outside the hours of daylight.

ps. Your 10:13am comment was addressed specifically to Mr E. off thread, but it is your blog, your rules

robertguyton said...

Louis - some roadside plantings are permissable, so long as they comply wih certain criteria. The Men of the Trees held a roadside planting competition some years ago to encourage planting and many people, including myself, took part. There are restrictions on trunk girth, lines of sight, frost-trap creation and so on. I suspect there are none for annual flowering plants etc, so the field, long and thin as it is, might be wide open.
I don't understand your comment about Mr E at all.

Anonymous said...

Louis,
I am promoting the concept of a pilot project to investigate roadside plantings. It could include roading groups as well as other groups etc. I don't know roading law and there may well be limitations that the project would need to recognise and work within. Do you think such a project is a bad idea. I am happy to consider views. It is just an idea and it would be good to know if it is a bad idea.
Robert, the comments that you refer, don't appear to have come from mayor Parker. Have you got the context of his statements correct?

Louis said...

"Did you, Mr E, catch up with my question on the thread about roadside planting, re; the writer's request?"

The only mention of roadside plantings on a thread about Christchurch, entitled "Parker reckons councils buggered", is addressed to Mr E., as in the quoted comment at 10:13am

robertguyton said...

Mr E. Have you thought about the writer's request yet? She'd like to follow up on what we are talking about and perhaps flag the project to the public.
I put the comment into Parker's virtual mouth - he won't care - he's been a mouthpiece for a long, long time. Remember the role he played in bringing Ecan into position? No? Parker's indicating that Councils will go the way of Ecan. My interpretation of that is 'buggered', and I mean that in the most democratic of ways.

robertguyton said...

Louis - unlike many bloggers, I don't mind off-thread comments, so long as they're not too vexatious.
Does the practice disturb you?

Anonymous said...

Robert,
Regarding shelter. If it was my project I would approach the public first and see if the project has legs. Eg Have a Wrights bush hall meeting with farmers, roading etc to see what their thoughts were before broadcasting via mainstream media. I think the best way to engage people is to bring them on board at day dot. That way they take ownership.
If that gives an answer? But it is your project. I simply wanted to seed an idea with someone with the skills. You appeared to be the right person and the seedling was already growing.

Regarding Mayor Parkers comments. Yes it seemed like a fair amount of creative journalism was going on there.

robertguyton said...

I'll taihoa then til there's more involvement from the stakeholders.
Creative journalism, yes. Why not.