Plum job that. You'd have to be of good standing and reputation to represent New Zealand in Monaco.
Richard Worth's got it.
Remember Richard? The National Party MP whose behaviour was so appalling that he was sacked by John Key who was in turn unable to even tell us what Worth had done that was so bad that it necessitated such a measure and such secrecy?
'Disgraced former MP Richard Worth, remember?
Monaco's Honorary Consul to New Zealand.
Key says he's 'surprised'.
I'm not.
Monday, July 18, 2011
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Very poor judgment on McCully's part. Worth did not enjoy Key's confidence in 2009, and I doubt that anything has changed.
You are accepting Inv2, that Key didn't know?
Astonishing!
McCully says he didn't tell Key?
Astonishing!
A disgraced Nat, landing a plum job overseas, representing our country?
Astonishing!
That Key, who was embroiled in the 'Worth Affair' so deeply, with such intense public interest in why a senior National Party MP would be sacked and what behaviour would have led to that happening and the secrecy that surrounded the sacking and the refusal by the Prime Minister to say what Worth had done, with all that in mind, you'd have us believe that Key wouldn't have been alerted to the fact that this disgraced Nat had been awarded a top role as Consul to New Zealand???
You
astonish
me!
Did I say that Key didn't know Robert? No; I didn't, so kindly don't put words in my mouth.
Key, like all PM's operates on a no-surprises policy, and if McCully did not tell him what he was planning, he deserves a bollocking.
Inv2 - key said he didn't know, though the appointment occured last October. McCully says he saw no need to tell Key.
These are lies.
It beggars belief that Key would not know the intimate details of what was happening with his most high-profile disgraced minister and it beggars belief that McCully wouldn't keep Key updated, knowing how it would look when the news broke, as it has now.
When things beggar belief Inv2, you should do more than just smooth over the inconsistencies because they're your team.
People are telling lies here.
There's not a lot of point presenting facts to Inanity2 @ laughing stock. blogspot
He is of an ilk. He wishes to besmirch everyone else but turns a blind eye to the state of things re his beloved government. Hypocrisy is an unpleasant trait. Especially in people who follow the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.
And what was Worth found to be guilty of?
Why would you bother wasting time reporting on this.
More important issues such as Key's disgraceful head in the sand attitude regarding the smacking debate.
http://big-news.blogspot.com/2011/07/my-mummys-criminal.html
sudsingsp
My observation has found that the writer of this site is also extremely adept at what you accuse Inanity2 @ laughing stock of.
sally. you have an axe to grind. smell the roses instead.
Sudingsp - taking your names from the capcha huh :-)
I believe you are quite correct about I2. Avoiding 'awkward' issues that relate to the party one supports is not admirable and if you want to blog on political issues, you should be brave enough to, not only field questions from the opposition, but also post glitches yourself for discussion. I would be most impressed if I2 put up a post of Richard Worth for discussion but not in a million years would I think he will.
He firmly believes, btw, that I am you and you are me :-)
Sally, do you have an axe to grind? bring it out nand I'll do it for you. If you believe I am hypocritical, please say so, bring along and example and I'll gladly talk with you about it.
Hope you will.
Rob
RG, I am a little amused that you jumped to the conclusion that you thought I thought you were hypocritical, you should have realised that I was referring to this sentence. "He wishes to besmirch everyone else but turns a blind eye to the state of things re his beloved government." (In your case the green movement)
Do I have an axe to grind? No but the Green movement sure has!
Robert "suspecting" that someone thinks he is lying on Keeping Stock:
...and that I'm lying about commenting under my own name. It's not at all polite of you and I'm disappointed in you but it's revealing and it's best I know how you operate.
Robert "implying" that John Key is lying:
You are accepting Inv2, that Key didn't know?
Astonishing!
There is your hypocrisy right there Robert.
Sally Smate
Sally - I assumed that you'd recognised that hypocrisy is the charge I level at Inv2 - it's a kind-of friendly push-and-shove kind of thing, but no, you say I besmirch! True! I do! Public figures who are taking us for a ride, I regard as besmirchable, in fact I feel it's my duty to lampoon them. Individual commentators, not so much, only if they start the unpleasentries and even then I wait and wait, hoping they'll not persist, but if they do, I fight back :-)
As for turning a blind eye to the state of the Greens - you what? Any example you could give I'd be happy to discuss and thank you Sally, for your time and forthright-ness.
Starter for ten:
"Richard Worth is well suited to be NZ's Honorary Consule in Monaco because..."
Any takers? Extra kudos for replies that contain facts and lack sarcasm or other wit.
"You are accepting Inv2, that Key didn't know?
Astonishing!"
Ah! You had an example waiting for me Sally(smate) - excellent!
I do find it astonishing that Inv2 could believe that John Key would be unaware that the troublesome Worth had been holding such a plum position since October, yes. I cannot believe it at all. I don't accept that McCully 'hadn't told Key' - if by chance it's true (I don't believe it is :-) then he is a stunningly incompetent man. Key, in my view, would be, should be intensly interested that the disgraced ex Nat Mp should not end up in a plum position REPRESENTING NEW ZEALAND, after whatever it was he did to scandalise the Prime Minister and appal the country and creat such a sense of disgust, despite him actions never being made public. To have this man reappear in such a role is either disgracefully incompetent or corrupt.
So that's why I'm astonished that Inv2 can believe that Key didn't know.
Are you just as astonished that readers on Keeping Stock believe the "Guyton clones" are actually Robert Guyton poorly disguised?
Sally Smate
ps. Thanks for conceding the hypocrisy.
Rob, I'm thinking "can't" should read "can" in line 9?
Blogger robertguyton said...
Sally(smate) David
Yes, I suppose you're right. I can be hypocritical at times. I must work on that, it's not an admirable characteristic.
I'm not astonished that some of the commentators on I2's blog credit me with the comments of others, especially where those comments are styled very similarly to mine. I can hardly blame them, however, I can absolutely assure you that I am not Santa, Satan, Mike, or dozens of other pseudonyms that are used on Keeping Stock. I was Stewart.I.Land, as Inv2 mentioned, and have over time dropped a couple of 'anonymous' comments in to the mix, while at computers that I wasn't able to sign-on to (thin clients) but your belief that I'm flooding Inv2's blog with false-name comments is quite wrong. Get Inv2 to look at the ISP's in the background for goodness sake. I don't want you losing sleep over something easily cleared up. If you are determined to believe that I'm all of those people, sweet, believe away! I might just join the fray in that case - give a dog a bad name etc :-)
Trebor Notyug
Thanks suz - what a shocking slip of the typing finger! Freudian? My honest inner-self spilling the beans? Who knows.
Probably just tired. I was in the council this morning , then at a Solid Energy 'presentation' this afternoon then into the theatre for Harry Potter's 'Deathly Hallows Pt2.'
Should probably go to bed before I admit to being Inv2!
Someone suggesting Robert Guyton is a bit backward is imitating your style as well.
Sal
A bit backward is tiba but aside from that, I don't know what you are referring to Sal (Dav).
Oh Yllas! Told you I was tired!
So Key didn't know about Worth and RG can't believe that.
My take on it, is Smile & Wave didn't know and all is not what it seems, behind the scenes, with the National Party?
Could it be that the leader is even more autocratic than Helen???
(Not Sally Smate)
Sally - if Key wasn't keeping tabs on Richard Worth, a minister who so disgraced himself that he had to be sacked and whose behaviour was so venal that Key couldn't bring himself to tell the country why he'd dismissed him, then yes, I am astonished. That's exceptionally poor management. For Worth to end up representing New Zealand overseas, and having done so for months before Key 'found out', is even more astonishing.
I guess we all have to decide what's most likely to be the truth. Was incompetence the big player here, or was it dishonesty. It sounds to me more the latter than the former. What do you think?
Sorry Sally, you've already told me what you believe happened. Key's operating alone, isn't briefed by his ministers, didn't feel that he had a responsibility to keep tabs on Worth etc. Maybe so.
I suspect Machiavellian twisting and turnings, but that's my bent. Either way, Key looks bad in my eyes. Not at all someone I'd trust.
Perhaps the most damning revelation is that his role was unnoticed for months. Once again we must ask "what was mr worth doing?" After all, surely his role involves doing something, being noticed, etc.?
McCully must have known full-well waht Mr Worth 'was doing'. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous. That Key wasn't aware is not believable. If in fact he wasn't, such disconnection is appalling.
Damn straight McCully knew. Key either knew, or should have known. And Worth was likely doing sfa beyond attempting to enhance his own personal interests.
We must be particularly rich to be able to afford these clowns, no?
That's rich!
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