Can't think what to say about this photo or give any good reason for publishing it.
But it's cute, eh!
Thursday, June 2, 2011
Little car
Can't think what to say about this photo or give any good reason for publishing it.
But it's cute, eh!
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I took a picture of some shoes on a red seat the other day, I have no idea why, and especially no idea of why I like it so much!
The car looks very purposeful.
Shunda - could be the breakthrough we've all been praying for!
Want it published?
wild*crafty - it does!
Intent on remaining small I think.
Shunda - could be the breakthrough we've all been praying for!
Well that depends on who you've been praying to!!
Better not be the spaghetti monster!
Nah!
He's imaginary.
I was at the funeral of my aunty today Shunda. Someone gave a reading. You'll know it. "I am the way, truth and the light - the way to God is through me etc. (loosely translated). I'd like to discuss that. You up for it?
Yes.
Can you supply the passage I'm referring to?
I intend to parse it with you.
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Do we accept, for the sake of this debate, that this is the correct wording, not some flawed interpretation/mis-translation?
If so, my argument runs:
Jesus defined the way to the Father - through 'the way and the truth and the life'.
Once we've determined what those three entail, we're there!
Jesus wasn't talking flesh and blood or 'being Christian', he seemed to very carefully present three 'concepts', and was clear that those were the requisite chanels through which we must pass/along which we must travel.
Is that enough to get us started? Bear in mind that I'm a novice in the field of religious debate and you Shunda, are an old hand :-)
Do we accept, for the sake of this debate, that this is the correct wording, not some flawed interpretation/mis-translation?
I think that the wording is pretty reliable, it appears to be repeated in other places as well.
If so, my argument runs:
Jesus defined the way to the Father - through 'the way and the truth and the life'.
Once we've determined what those three entail, we're there!
That is an interesting way to look at it, but I am not sure (from the context of what was being discussed) whether that is what he meant. What those three things actually entail is still an interesting question though.
Jesus wasn't talking flesh and blood or 'being Christian', he seemed to very carefully present three 'concepts', and was clear that those were the requisite chanels through which we must pass/along which we must travel.
I think though, he was suggesting that those 3 aspects are only found 'in him' so to speak. This could also have been in reference to the fact that the way to the father would no longer be about keeping the 'law' of Moses, which rewarded personal effort with 'righteousness', but also tended to lead to extreme self righteousness or 'trust in the flesh'.
Your comment about "being Christian" is interesting, because I believe much of what is paraded as Christian is actually a subtle return to the 'rule keeping' of the Law and actually has nothing to do with "the way, the truth, and the life."
Is that enough to get us started? Bear in mind that I'm a novice in the field of religious debate and you Shunda, are an old hand :-)
Ha! yes, Valis has sure toughened me up!
I am not sure if I fully understood your question though, or answered very well, but you certainly triggered some thoughts of my own with your observation.
I haven't done a bible study for quite a while Robert, wasn't expecting it to be here!
P.S.
I am sorry to hear you have been at another funeral. It has been a year of death it would seem, my wife and I have been to so many funerals of late.
Shunda - I'm going to ruminate on your reply, if I may, before responding (council stuff today).
The funeral was for my aunty. Her 'picture-show' included a photo of my recently-departed sister! You are right, there have been a number of 'departures' in the past two months.
"Jesus defined the way to the Father - through 'the way and the truth and the life'.
Once we've determined what those three entail, we're there."
What those three things actually entail is still an interesting question though."
Curious to me that I always thought 'life' was 'light' - seemed more logical.
The Way
The Truth
The Life
Do you have interpretations from your experience that relate to this statement by Jesus?
I'd be interested to hear them if you do.
In my experience?
Well, in my experience I would say that this is the single most important issue in Christianity.
It is also the most misunderstood, avoided, and maligned aspect of the faith by most of the organised 'church'.
I have lots of experience dealing with some of these 'problems' and I have come to some conclusions of my own.
Can you be more specific on your line of thought here?
I think one aspect of Christianity that I find fascinating is that much of the church takes on an "abandon ship" mentality, but when you read what Jesus spoke about, he referred to a kingdom that existed here and now and spoke at length about what it actually was.
It is also fascinating (compared to popular doctrine) that he also referred to "the restoration of all things" and "the creation is in travail" which implies to me that restoration is actually supposed to be a primary activity of the faithful, and at the core of the "Kingdom" that Christ preached.
Could Jesus be a greenie?
Your responses are very interesting Shunda - thoughtful and considered. I've somewhat floundered since my initial 'revelation' (left it too long to follow up) but in the meantime have been thinking about the effect of setting -time and place, on how things are said and seen. For example, 'the Father' seems to be a relationship that would be used to express the relationship between a minor and major being, back in the time of Jesus, where it doesn't fly so well these days. Also wondering if Jesus might be a greenie doesn't really work given the under developed state of environmentalism back then ... if you see what I mean.
There's nothing worse than a floundering revelation!
Funerals are always very interesting for such things to be triggered.
Often people just engage in shallow 'grief athletics' but then someone will occasionally say something that is a revelation of something much more special.
A Christian friend of mine recently lost his wife to cancer, she was only in her 40's.
I was so inspired by his strength and wisdom, and his determination to get through such a difficult and tragic situation.
While his words were inspiring and tremendously honouring of his wife, I found the words of a Pentecostal preacher that also spoke incredibly hard to stomach and totally contrived.
If only the best in people could come out at less tragic times.
I understand what you are saying there Shunda, only too clearly.
The 'minister' at my sister's funeral was entirely 'there' and aligned with us and Claire, while the 'minister' at the second funeral was a git who spouted religious pap and pointless personal observations.
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