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Monday, May 30, 2011

The Brethren are back!
















Don Brash hadn't met the Brethren and he doesn't know about the attack on MMP.
Crikey Don, you're a bullsh*tter!
Orcs, Wormtongues, Slitherins and assorted nasties are gathering their vile forces to make an assault on MMP and Don's quite unaware of it all. So's John Key no doubt, much in the same way he didn't know about the Brethren's sneaky machinations some time back.
Lusks, Farrars, Slaters and other lowly creatures are scuttling about as I type, wheedling and scheming, gathering in the vast piles of money they'll need to con the public into thinking that MMP's no longer 'what they want'. The Shirtcliffe FPP hasn't a snowball's chance of returning from the crypt (though Brash did, and Douglas, so who really knows?) and Key will begin to lay his favoured alternative onto the public like honey on toast until its sickly sweetness will completely mask the tongue-rasping reality underneath. Getting lurid now, but you get the picture.
Fight to retain MMP I say. Then iron out its blemishes.
Oh, the Brethren. Bound to be supporters of a campaign like this and they're not short of a dollar. They proved that last time.

14 comments:

Keeping Stock said...

Getting worried about the tide turning against MMP, are you Robert? Fancy dragging the Exclusive Brethren out of the woodwork; not that I'm surprised.

Anonymous said...

No poultice required.

Armchair Critic said...

Inv2
Can't claim to speak for Robert, but I'm fair crapping myself about Brash. I mean he's doubled ACT's support since taking over from Rodney, from 1%, up all the way to 2%. So what if that 1% increase is within the margin of error - it's still doubled.
Another 2% and he'll have them back at the soaring heights of 3.65% that they got to in 2008. That'll be a little over 1% below the threshold to get into parliament without gerrymandering. Incidentally, that's how ACT want to get in again in 2011, with more collusion and rorting, like the morally bankrupt bunch of hypocrits they are. In case you'd forgotten.

robertguyton said...

Inv2 - a couple of things: what leads you to think the Brethren are wood-worms?
To me, a slur like that is worse than Cullens 'chinless-scarf-wearers' but perhaps they're a competing church, so you might be forgiven for implying they're huhu, borer or what ever it is you are alluding to.
Second of all...a question for you:
Would you like to see MMP rejected?

robertguyton said...

Anonymous. No pus, no poultice required, as you state.

robertguyton said...

Armchair Critic - au contraire, it seems you do speak for me on this issue.
The spectre of a rampant Brash is terrifying indeed and I'm losing sleep each and every night. His meteoric rise to the dizzying heights you describe has me giving up all hope, personal and political. Since he so adroitly assumed leadership of the Act Party (I'm seeing 'stock car' here - what's that about. And a plank.) I've suffered minute by minute, from ennui (it's French and smells like spam).
I feel your pared-to-the-bone depiction of the Act Party will upset some viewers, so I'll post a warning now. Don't read this comment or the one by Armchair Critic.
That should cover it.

Shunda barunda said...

I can't understand how any Christian can be true to their faith and support the ACT party.

robertguyton said...

A point well made Shunda.
Given that Act and National are set to amalgamate soon, your question is timely indeed.
Brash was National's leader, now he's leading Act. Banks was a National MP, now he's Act candidate for Epsom. What does that tell you?

paulinem said...

I see this referendum giving us the chance to get rid of MMP and bring in the most democratic system of all STV.

But I suspect we will hear a lot of BS regarding how STV is too complicated etc as we children will never comprehend the complications of STV

In truth Brash,Key and co would hate this system as under STV gone will be their power. Gone will be those getting into Parliament by the back door.

STV means NO ONE gets into Parliament unless they present themselves to the electorate as a candidate NO one gets elected unless they are supported by their electorate by 50% of their voters.

This means love or hate your MP at end of the day you know he/she was elected by a true democratic process.

The Government of the day could be very very interesting though as hmmmm who gets elected would not predictable anymore :)

robertguyton said...

You are quite right Pauline. STV is the better system by far but as you say, needs some understanding by voters to work properly. I think most institutions don't want it because of the results it produces (fair) and so play-up the difficulties so as to keep the public unable to use it easily.
Rod Donald battled long and hard to have STV become accepted but now it's losing ground in favour of manipulable systems, the most nasty being FPP.

paulinem said...

Then lets get active promoting it remind people this is how the Hospital board are voted how councils like Dunedin are voted and like the Chicken lick en story the sky hasn't fallen as result of these local governing bodies using it.

I harp on all you need to understand instead of ticking the box you number the candidates in order of preference ..THAT NO one gets elected unless they are nominated as a candidate NO ONE gets elected unless they get 50% of support of their voters.

So many voters hate MMP re getting into Parliament via back door ( and with it the undue influence such as Act and the Maori party has had) that mentioning these later realities can really get their interest. Lets not forget when the 1991 vote occurred when many like myself were part of the electorate reform movement the electorate was not as savvy as it is today, there was no example of STV working well NOW there is good examples in our own country

robertguyton said...

I think a pro-STV campaign will fail as there is little will for it to be adopted. The battle now is between MMP and John Key's favoured option.
"Key said he believed voters would reject MMP.

"I think the country may well vote MMP out but I think they will vote in another proportional system," he told reporters.

"I don't think they'll go back to first past the post."

paulinem said...

Yeah it may fail but Robert think of the fun annoying the S..t out them promoting STV, immagine if we got the public voting for it at the election ... and horror of horror if Keys gets back in ...He would be constantly reminded of the vote now wouldnt he :)

Shane Pleasance said...

It might (but probably won't) bother you to know that the Libertarianz are keen on STV.