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Thursday, October 10, 2013

Philip Todd says:

Philip Todd said...

Having been at the coal face of the repealing of the Employment Contracts Act I to am saddened to see the gradual return to such policies which were worse than just about every developed western economy of the time. CEO's of large companies have continued to take the short sighted view of cutting costs rather than driving business and to a large degree that shows their inability to manage people. Easier to manage by fear than by example and leadership. We created a new way of thinking under the ECA which made people think of themselves at the expense of the community they lived and work in. I see the old union stuff being rolled out again and it gets traction because people are afraid to think forward instead of backward. Yes there were things wrong inside the union movement just as there were things wrong in the finance, banking, employers federation etc etc.
However the general public should look around at the people who have held their wage rates and benefits. Strangely most are part of strong unions. Police, firemen, pilots, teachers, engineers, banking staff and the list could go on.
Lower wages will not solve the countries problems, that is one of the facts of life.

6 comments:

Paranormal said...

So many things completely wrong in such a short post. Lets just focus on a couple:

- "yes there ARE (not were) things wrong inside the union movement"
- Bankers, engineers, and pilots don't have strong unions. They do however generally all produce greater than their cost.

Unknown said...

Wow thats interesting. The EPMU is the countries largest union so would tend to think it is strong.
Would also say since the day compulsory union membership was taken away unions have become very membership focused. If they dont deliver you dont belong.
And would argue about what banks produce. In reality they sit in the middle of two parties and clip the ticket. They dont produce anything apart from debt.

robertguyton said...

Bankers produce greater than their cost?
Bankers produce...what, para?

Paranormal said...

PT and RG - I was talking about the employees in the organisations producing more than their cost. Have a think about how that might benefit the employee.

Unions are like trains. The solution to an 18th century problem. I was involved in unions briefly, helping a reformer bring change and growth to benefit the members. What I saw did not impress me.

PT if unions were actually membership focused and not politically focused bullys they would be more widely accepted in the workforce. The stats speak for themselves.

robertguyton said...

Trains aren't a 'solution to 18th Century problems, para.
What an odd thing to say and think!
Trains, built light and with powered rolling stock, will transform freight transport in New Zealand.
That's modern thinking, para!

Paranormal said...

RG you are showing your ignorance and ideology over reality again.

Trains are not the solution for New Zealand and why when the regulatory protection was removed the railways lost business.

They are good at shipping bulk from consistent locations but they lack the flexibility a modern economy requires. And that's why the comparison with unions is so apt.