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Tuesday, September 24, 2013

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Keeping Stock (9,171) Says:
September 23rd, 2013 at 8:41 pm

"The mere thought of the Greens, in particular the car-hating Julie Ann Genter running the transport portfolio fills me with dread. I can see vast sums of money being spent on public transport projects that will run at massive losses. And I hope that Transmission Gully and Puhoi to Wellsford are sufficiently underway that they cannot be canned or neither road will be built in my lifetime at least."

My good friend Keeping Stock/Inventory2 has gone into some sort of state of shock as he prepares for the change of Government next year. I expect we'll see many more of these panicked posts from him as the weeks pass. They're great fun and really pep up my day as I flick rapidly through the latest comments from the blue bloggers - my litmus test for political pH.

24 comments:

Unknown said...

The right wingers cultivate fear. Easier than good debate

robertguyton said...

It's par for their course. Debate with Inventory2 is a frustrating affair, as he's well versed in obfuscation, straw man presentation and outright misrepresentation. On top of that, he's banned me from commenting on his blog. Goodness knows why :-)

Joe W said...

When Lianne Dalziel was first rumoured to be running for the Chch mayoralty, a certain social media commenter vowed he'd leave town if she won. Now that it's looking like a dead cert he's generously decided to "give her six months". Knickers appear to have a way of untwisting all by themselves.

Unknown said...

The founding value for the right wingers is yourself. There is a theory of trickle down but they want the control of the tap as well. However the left gets sidetracked to easy at times as well. I feel for the Labour Party as they have forgotten many of their founding values. A fair days pay for a fair days work is simple enough but with few who have lived it its hard to articulate it.

robertguyton said...

Disappointing when they prevaricate and snivel, Joe.

robertguyton said...

You are grass-roots, Philip. Ever thought of attending one of Eric Roy's meetings and holding his big feet to the fire?

Unknown said...

last politician I went and hackled was Rob Muldoon in the Civic Theatre many many years ago. And I certainly came off second best on that one. Led me right up the garden path then savaged me the bastard. Admired him hugely for that. Eric would be much safer for me.

fredinthegrass said...

Philip, you are not alone in being savaged by Mr. Muldoon. His ability in that direction was legend - much as that of Dracula.
Rg @ 3.18 - I know you are too nice a person to ban folk from your blog, but gee your self description was right on the money.

Unknown said...

Was proud of my old Mum when the Dr was asking questions of her to decide how bad her dementia had progressed about 5 years ago. When he asked if she knew who the PM was she replied. I don't care as long as its not that bastard Muldoon. When I was young and rebellious I voted for him once but never told Mum thank goodness.

robertguyton said...

Your mum's answer - best answer ever!

Fred! Cheeky monkey!

darkhorse said...

and what are transmission gully and the puhoi expressway if they are not vast expensive road to nowhere projects funded by the public purse

get cost effective UFB to every house and we won't need roads.

Armchair Critic said...

C'mon darkhorse, we'll always need roads. Also, Transmission Gully is going on the credit card, which makes it all OK, right?
Robert, I've been fascinated by the shift from the idea that National are a shoe-in to win the next election, to the idea that it's going to be a close run thing, to the current state of fear, dread and panic. It might be that reality is dawning upon them. I'm certain that I know the outcome of the next election, and I find it laughable that people confuse "who do I want to win the election" which is unrelated to who will win, with "what is the probability that X will win 61 seats, or more, at the next election". Anyway, I can't wait to see what their next line of approach will be, mostly so I can engage in discussion. And from a position of certainty about the outcome of the election.
With regard to KS, it is tempting to feel sorry for him. A change of government presents a serious threat to the god he worships - $$$ (though he claims to prefer one that has a name that can't be spoken, or some such nonsense). And I still don't feel sorry for him.
Is he banned from commenting here?

Armchair Critic said...

BTW - do you visit the sewer often? I've not been there for years and if I didn't know better I'd have clicked on the link.

robertguyton said...

Darkhorse - it continues to be a shame that you haven't your hand on some power-lever or other. I see Lee making waves. The Transport Industry has a death-grip on Auckland, its seems, and the (temporary) Government. I hope the Government that's left can strike-down that big family business.

robertguyton said...

AC - KS can comment here at will, but has imposed upon himself, if not a ban then a strategic absence. His silly statements look far worse when made here. On his blog, they blend in with the others.
I occasionally do a fly-through at Farrarblog, just to get a feeling for how they are handling their collapse. It's a king of Kubla-Ross experience.
Some of our brothers-in-arms over there get in some deadly hits, now that the pale, as in the whites of their eyes, is the backdrop.

Armchair Critic said...

I know how KS feels, I'm not visiting his blog because he banned Edward the Confessor.
That Herald poll today doesn't hold much cheer for National, especially when you consider how in often favours them heavily.

robertguyton said...

Edward's a great man.

darkhorse said...

not completely dormant RG

I spend some time in lee's ear each week and he may yet do well - and the CEO has just resigned too -

The lone ranger and tonto may yet ride again

darkhorse said...

That's an engineer talking AC!

Roads will go itno decline over the next ten - twenty years.

I live in a virtual office now

we put our phones in the rubbish a few months back and use virtual phones now

technology post "google glass" will negate the need for much travel

and the cost of travel is going to continue to rise and our total road miles travelled is already dropping


roads are twentieth century

robertguyton said...

I hear the clapping of half-coconut shells, Hi ho, Silver!
Go Lee!

Armchair Critic said...

It's more like a planner talking DH. As I see them roads are the paths along which things pass to get from one place to another. I believe the desire for these paths will not drop to zero while we exist (as a species). The demand could easily decrease due to the availability of alternatives, as you''ve said, and that could happen quite rapidly (in the timescale of roads, which have been around for millennia), due to sudden changes in economic conditions. It certainly brings into question the viability of roads like TG. I expect our current government is sufficiently foolish to accept the bulk of the risks of failure.

darkhorse said...

yes but what tends to happen is the efficiency of transport increases rather than the scale of route our rail and roads are largely unchanged since the 19th century other than the bearing surface and perhaps we have reached a plateau in consumption - most people now have as mcuh as they need - or can afford and we can't produce much more milk or meat or pine trees so bulk transport should have plateaued too. We might shift around some more manufactured goods - but not with our current political leadership and rail is presently severely underutilised and coastal shipping probably isnt doing much more tonnage than in the good old days of sailing

but I suspect we agree

TG is a dog because most of the traffic is generated in the Wgtn region between the city and the

Armchair Critic said...

TG is the worst transport project in NZ.

robertguyton said...

But...but...Peter Dunne!!!