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Thursday, July 7, 2011

Collie out of hibernation














Did he stumble out of his warm, dry cave by himself, or was he encouraged to emerge from his long slumber by those upset by my outspokenness, that's what I wondered as I fielded ex-chairman Collie's terse accusations of bias, at the yesterday's 'listen to the public' meeting in Invercargill. Collie was like a bear with a sore head, and his grumbling was caused by my calling a meeting where, shock, horror, the public was able to say what they thought, without restriction, to a councillor who was willing to listen and note their concerns. Collie thought this most improper and said so. He probably wasn't expecting the stropping that followed! Several members of the crowd that turned out for the meeting vigorously chastised the ex-chairman for his churlish views and stated their strong support for the opportunity the meeting provided for them to have their say. Collie vainly tried to maintain his objections, until Labour's Leslie Soper delivered the coup de grace with some well chosen facts and definitive phrases that ended Collies diatribe on predetermination and made my heart swell with pride! There was applause all round at her words. To Collies' credit, he stayed for the rest of the meeting and got to hear, as I did, what people thought about Solid Energy's lignite mining plans, along with other associated issues. The crowd was a well informed one and covered some very important concerns, all of which I will take to the council I sit on, for their information. I learned a great deal from those people and was hugely grateful for their opinions and their support. The Southland Times reporter, naturally, chose to focus on the conflict, as reporters are bound to do, and I've copy/pasted that story below. Thank you, by the way, very much to all those who came to the meeting. I was very encouraged by what I heard and by the calibre of thought that I heard being expressed.

Environment Southland councillor Robert Guyton has been accused of having a conflict of interest after he held his own public meeting to discuss lignite mining yesterday.
Former council chairman Stuart Collie, who was at the meeting, asked if it was appropriate if Mr Guyton sat on the council's resource consent committee.
Mr Guyton's opinion on mining was "predetermined" and that meant sitting on the resource consents committee was a conflict of interest, Mr Collie said.
"As a councillor you've got some very well-known point-of-views ... from a consent committee point-of-view I don't know how you can operate in that role," Mr Collie said.
Mr Guyton earlier this week announced he would hold the meeting to gauge public opinion, instead of attending a council resource consents committee hearing for Solid Energy, which plans to build a $25 million briquetting plant in the Mataura Valley.
Mr Guyton said he had been careful about commenting on mining, and had stepped aside from sitting on yesterday's actual hearing so he could not be accused of having a conflict of interest.
He had also invited people with all viewpoints to attend, he said.
About 30 people turned up at his meeting yesterday afternoon, and the majority appeared to hold their own concerns about the sustainability and potential negative impacts further mining could bring to the area.
Others attending the meeting threw their weight behind Mr Guyton, with many arguing councillors were elected because of the viewpoints they represented.
Otatara woman Sherry Elton said she was grateful Mr Guyton voiced his opinions. "Robert's views have been Robert's views since he was a kid. I'm pleased there's somebody in there willing to listen to me."
After the meeting, Environment Southland chief executive Ciaran Keogh said he was disappointed to hear Mr Collie had publicly criticised Mr Guyton.
"I think it's inappropriate for him to be saying those sorts of things about one of our councillors," he said. Many councillors had their own opinions, but all had a duty to remain impartial when making decisions.
He declined to comment on whether individual meetings could impact on Mr Guyton's role on the committee.
alana.dixon@stl.co.nz

* As I expected, the council granted the consent applications from Solid Energy at a meeting held at the same time. "The committee unanimously approved the application for a consent period of 20 years etc..."

8 comments:

Suz said...

I'm confused..does being impartial equate to not having a view?

I'm surprised it was a unanimous vote..how many people are on the council?

robertguyton said...

You're not the only one Suz - there are several members of the council who also struggle to make the distinction. It amuses me that a dairy farmer on a council can be regarded as 'impartial' but someone like myself who visits all camps is singled out as biased. That's not to say I'm not, it's just hypocritical in the other instance :-)

There were probably 8 sitting on the consents committee (don't know for sure, wasn't there). All gave their thumbs up.
The full council is 12.

Anonymous said...

The times article wasn't very helpful to you, mainly focused on Mr Collie's accusations which is a shame.

Suz I think you can only be impartial if your views line up exactly with Solid Energy's -then you are impartial like the rest of the councillors...

Mark said...

Once one has joined the Public service perceived 'Conflicts of Interest' are more or less unavoidable.
To use this as a pretext for cancelling people's right to participate in the Democratic process is a pretty questionable tactic in my view.
best wishes
Mark

robertguyton said...

Perhaps Bio, but the contrast of Collie's 'agenda' and my own has provoked some very interesting phone calls to me this morning. None of those said that Collie was a great bloke doing his very best for the betterment of society.

robertguyton said...

Thanks mark. I have no conflict of interest. Certainly none I wouldn't own too. I hope one day we have to consent 'democracy' - there'd be a few other councillors leaving the table!

Shunda barunda said...

Very clever Robert, I am impressed with your honesty and transparency.

If people want to see real conflict of interest, take a look at the West Coast regional council, it is a disgrace and a farce.

Your approach is very refreshing and very democratic, they fear it for those reasons.

Oh for someone the same up here!

Keep up the good work and don't ever resign!. We had councillor up here start to take Tony Kokshorn to task and was a great hope for many, then he threw his rattle and resigned with a whimper in a huff!
Just when things were getting interesting!!

robertguyton said...

Thanks Shunda - why did your man resign???
I'd love to know what was behind that!