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Tuesday, January 18, 2011

Harbour cruise for the blues

If the words and phrases Bluegreens, marine reserve and Akaroa strike a chord with any of you :-) you'll want to read this post by Gareth Hughes on Frogblog.
I know of a couple of Southlanders who are heading to the Bluegreen conference and  might like to mull over the implications of this aspect of the itinery.
I'll certainly report back on the details of the conference, so far as those attending from here share their experiences. I'll be especially asking about the fishing.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

The SeaShepherd has set a course for some smack-down!

robertguyton said...

Ha!
Rancid butter to starboard!

Keeping Stock said...

"Cruisin' for a bruisin'"?

Surely you're not advocating violence Robert, especially after chastising other bloggers ...

robertguyton said...

Busted!
(There's another one!)
The difference though Inv2, is that these Bluegreens aren't criminals ...
hang on! :-)
Yes, that title is innapropriate.
I'll change it right now. Can't be inciting violence by my careless use of words.
(See how easy that was?)

Anonymous said...

Tut, tut, tut Robert. You must be aware that the Green Party favours Maori ownership of the foreshore and seabed and that Ngaitahu are applying for a taiapure over the harbour:
http://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/denial-customary-rights-unacceptable-say-greens

Eugenie Sage says

It could be EXCEPT THAT we understand that Ngai Tahu and the Akaroa taiapure management committee are moving quickly to have the taiapure which covers 90% of Akaroa Harbour extended to cover the Dan Rogers area without public consultation.

Legally you cannot have a dual regime over the same area of sea space i.e. a marine reserve and a taiapure because they are established and managed under different legislation. (A taiapure is a fisheries management tool under the Fisheries Act). If Ngai Tahu is successful in extending the taiapure, it would then be impossible to re-apply for a marine reserve. You can write to Fisheries Minister, Phil Heatley asking him to not extend the taiapure.

http://blog.forestandbird.org.nz/sea-change-yeah-right/

Keeping Stock said...

Well done Robert; apologies if my lack of compassion for little Jarius' ALLEGED killer offended you. As a parent, I find it hard to by sympathetic to someone who hits or kicks a five- month-old with such force that his liver ruptured.

robertguyton said...

Thank you anon - that's most pertinant.
I'll be very keen to learn that there is protection of some sort extended to those waters.
Personally, I would be very happy to see a taiapure of that extent come into being.

robertguyton said...

Inv2 - I wasn't asking you to show compassion to anyone, just recognise that words that refer to violence reflect your internal state. Violent thoughts don't seem to me to be Christian thoughts and you pride yourself on being Christian.

Anonymous said...

"Personally, I would be very happy to see a taiapure of that extent come into being."

which do you prefer: marine reserve or taiapure?

robertguyton said...

If one comes into being before the other, I'd be happy with the first.
I have some faith in both to protect and manage the harbour, though I don't know the details. I think that shared management between iwi and Crown agencies can work very well.

Anonymous said...

What's there to manage?

robertguyton said...

Free for all a better system anon?
Our environment needs to be managed, especially close-by to habitation.
I wouldn't want to see a coastal environment like this stripped bare by greedy interests.

Anonymous said...

"I think that shared management between iwi and Crown agencies can work very well."

Do we need to "manage" a marine reserve?

robertguyton said...

Someone does anon.
Who's going to make sure the reserve is treated as one?
Should we assume that everyone can read the notice, understand it and comply with it out of the goodness of their hearts?
I'm for kaitiaki of whatever stripes keeping an eye on the waters and the users.

Anonymous said...

The difference between a taiapure and a marine reserve is that a taiapure allows commercial fishing; a marine reserve keeps ALL humans out no matter what fancy hat they wear.

robertguyton said...

Commercial fishing by whom and at what intensity?
I'm thinking the controls required will be beneficial to the marine environment or there would be no purpose for it.
I'm not a great fan of total exclusion. We humans need to interact with the environment rather than glass ourselves off from it.

nick said...

An exponentially growing population consumes resources, well, exponentially. Any extractive environmental interaction is a necessarily finite pursuit - can't not use. No-go zones are therefore the only viable marine conservation option under these circumstances, I believe.

How about, total solar exclusion. Even better, total atmospheric exclusion. The BlueWhites! The BlueBlues!

Anonymous said...

Taiapure:

Taiapure are local fisheries in coastal waters which recognise the special significance of the area to local iwi or hapu, either as a source of seafood, or for spiritual or cultural reasons. Taiapure give Maori greater say in the management of their traditionally important areas. A major difference between mataitai and taiapure is that taiapure allow commercial fishing.

http://www.doc.govt.nz/conservation/marine-and-coastal/marine-protected-areas/other-protected-areas/taiapure/

robertguyton said...

Thanks anon.
But there is no commercial fishing undertaken in Akaroa Harbour on account of their being too few fish.